Whoosh! Issue 60 - September 2001
Letters to the Editor



Page Thirteen





Disappointed #562-610

[D562]

heartbroken, sad, empty, all these words and more can be used to describe how I felt after the last scene ended

VC






[D563]

Granted all good things come to an end, I will truly miss the friendship and passion for life that was depicted throughout the seasons. I couldn't believe they ended it with the two of them being separated in life.

RW






[D564]

DEATH IS BAD ENOUGH, WHY DID THEY HAVE TO ADD SUCH A FINALITY?

WHY TAKE SO MANY FANS TO A POINT OF NO RETURN? WHY COULDN'T THEY CREATE (DON'T TELL ME IT WAS HARD) A MORE IMAGINATIVE END THAT WOULD SYMBOLIZE AN "AFTERLIFE" (I.E. "HOPE") EVEN AFTER THE SHOW IS DEAD? HERE YOU HAVE TO MOURN 4 THINGS: END OF A RELATIONSHIP, 1 PERSON LEFT BEHIND, 1 PERSON WITH NO CHOICE BUT TO LEAVE, & DEATH ITSELF.

I ALWAYS LOVED THE SHOW FOR ITS QUALITIES: THE DIALOG, THE FILMING (COMPOSITION, COLOR, COSTUMES, SCENERY), THE MUSIC, DRAMA, INTENSITY, ETC.

THE FINAL EPISODE DELIVERED ON ALL THOSE AS USUAL; BUT I DO THINK THE IDEA OF XENA DYING WAS SIMPLY IN BAD (CHEAP) TASTE. THEY COULD HAVE ACHIEVED THE "BOOM" EFFECT WITH VIEWERS' EMOTIONS JUST THE SAME BY A POSITIVE ENDING WITH SOME CONTINUITY TO IT.

WHY NOT LIVE UP TO THE DEEPER MESSAGES IN THE SHOW? I.E., IF "TIME & LOVE NEVER DIE", THEN REFLECT THAT TO YOUR VIEWERS IN A TANGIBLE WAY: WHY DO YOU THINK ANYONE BOTHERS MAKING GOOD ENDINGS ANYWAY? IT'S BECAUSE THIS IS HOW WE UNDERSTAND HOPE, & THAT IS WHY I THINK IT WAS IN POOR TASTE TO HAVE A DEATH OF THE HERO IN THE FINAL EPISODE.

R






[D565]

I'm of the opinion the choice of endings was VERY deliberate and consciously mean...you know: "make them hate you and go away"...well it worked...but I certainly do not have to watch or participate in anything any of the 3 (Tapert, Lucy, Renee) of them ever do again. Funny...it sure didn't stop them from selling every bit of merchandise possible from the convention on...even knowing that that finale was "in the can". I only wish the fans could be as motivated and cohesive in their protests and boycotts as they have been in their support...but most I've spoken with just want to pin it all on Rob and carry on with the delusional view that Renee and Lucy were innocent. In my opinion, at the very LEAST, they should be verbally outraged at the way the mantra of the entire series was betrayed by separating the duo in the finality of death. They were with the "Rift"...Lucy warned everyone: "Don't hate us"...and later both commented that they didn't agree with the direction that went. Of course it's now an important stepping stone to their eventual relationship...but here there is no room to make THIS part of a means to a different end. THIS is the last vision and feeling with which we are blessed.

I'm getting less sad and angry...but the confusion will always be in place. How do you purposely thumb your nose at those who have made you so successful and who have done it with grace and caring and with both emotions and money to charities in your name? That part of it really freaks me out. I refuse to believe that they "didn't get it"...they had one shot at an ending...pretty much anything else would have been accepted...even the death of both...it would have been extremely sad...but accepted. It was all very calculated.

Being a person of principle, my interest and support of their furthering careers is truncated. I will not purchase any more merchandise. I will not watch re-runs. (My tapes are a different story...they don't affect ratings.) This is not the bitter retaliation of an obsessed fan who can not tell the difference between the actors and characters. This is a consumer who is no longer satisfied with the product or the customer service and will no longer support the business. It's the only power I have and I choose to utilize it.

Thanks for the forum

M






[D566]

The beheading and death of Xena did not bother me. I just think the writers could have written her death better than what was produced. She died as a warrior in battle. I just think the circumstances could have been better, i.e. fighting the gods.

T






[D567]

I am writing this e-mail with the help of a translation program, excuse me the grammar mistakes In Brazil perhaps see only to 6th season of Xena at the end of the year (we didn't still see the end of Hercules), but I didn't like to know that Xena dies in the last episode of the it series. Heroes should not die, this left me sad and disappointed. Never again I will follow one it series of Renaissance Pictures, because I am being betrayed for the you inform that have been seeing on the final episode of Xena. Nothing justifies the death of a Hero that accompanies me in the last 5 years, and of who I like a lot.

FCL






[D568]

Of all the ways they could have ended it this probably was the most devastating for the show. The reason why the show captured such a wide audience all around the world hadn't so much to do with the "Xena- warrior" storyline or the action, over the years this was really a story about unselfishness and learning whatís meaningful in life. Relationships. This was the unique part. After seeing "Friend in need I & II" you can't feel anything but heartbroken. The character Xena lived her life and died as a warrior yes, but she never really got any peace before it was taken away from her. Didnít she deserve that much? I guess what we all wanted was some kind of hope. I didnít at all want to see Xena and Gabrielle walk away into the sunset, but maybe an ending that summed up the journey these characters had gone through. In my mind the ending didnít at all have that ingredient. That part was lost during its production.

J
Sweden






[D569]

Gabrielle: "You saved me today, Xena, against the Greater Good. Why? Isn't that what we've been fighting for?"

Xena: "Gabrielle, in everyone's life there's something that goes beyond the Greater Good. That's what you are in my life. I wasn't about to let you die out there if there was something I could do about it." ( -"Legacy" season six)

XFS






[D570]

I think it could have gone like this: Have the Japan 2-parter.Let Xena die(again) and have her brought back without the REALLY having to stay dead thing. She didn't have to die when she freed the Amazon souls in Sin Trade 2,so why now? Many Happy Returns should have been the series ender,with them flying with Hermes' helmet,and happy. This could then be the start of a hope for a movie,as we old-time Star Trek fans hoped for in the 1960's.

GL
Age 53






[D571]

Very, very disappointed to see Gabrielle left on her own without Xena. It would be nice to see a spin-off from this series, showing Gabrielle's travels and skills, she learnt from Xena and showing her abilities as a diplomat,bard,and maybe a warrior..... just as good or maybe better than Xena.

DJ






[D572]

Just to let you know that I was disappointed with the story, not the ending of the show. Whether one or both characters met their demise, it just seemed as though no thought or effort was put into coming up with a decent storyline. That is all.

Also, after seeing the Jay Leno interview of Lucy Lawless, I think that she should spend some of her time re-educating herself.

CK






[D573]

Beautifully filmed but I felt cheated at the end. I felt Xena left Gabrielle for Akemi. VERY disappointed that that is the LAST impression of the series.

MM






[D574]

Just feel painfully sorrowful that all the light Xena gathered in her heart was deemed not enough to allow love to redeem her---not a hopeful read on the power of love to cover all things---in my heart---Xena lives on---and that is in a realm where no one can end it so artificially.

N






[D575]

She didn't really have to die!

SG






[D576]

Felt like I got robbed. But I can't understand why they really pulled the cord on the show the way they did anyway.

WC






[D577]

I was left disappointed yet at the same time I grasped the inevitable. Sooner than later Xena had to pay for her crimes but why did she have to pay for these crimes. Why couldn't she pay for all of the crimes in her homeland. I feel that if would have been a terrific ending had it been a two part episode involving all of the Greek characters in the xenaverse. I can tell that they borrowed heavily from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, but they should have let Xena just be Xena in the final episode. An episode involving all of the original villains and heroes from the Xena episodes would have let us know how they all felt. There are other people that had feelings for Xena. Autolycus and Hercules are just to name a few. I would have loved to see Ares cry in the final scene because we all know that he really loved Xena and she had quite a few kisses with him from time to time that have left Gabrielle quite upset. Another reason that I am disappointed is because that Xena would have wanted Gabrielle to bury her in her home town. But since it is too late for any of that to happen I would love to be able to watch a new series about Gabrielle.

HJ






[D578]

I wasn't all that disappointed in the last episode of Xena. I was more disappointed that the series ended!! I was just a tiny bit disappointed that the show's writers left many of unanswered questions. Such as, what happened to the combined Amazon nation. The episode To Helicon and back, kinda left you hanging. Will Gabrielle go back and take her rightful spot as queen. What ever happened to Eve and Virgil.

Many of unanswered questions, but it leaves it open for any future shows. I'll miss Xena: Warrior Princess, it was an excellent show that was ended before it's time.

K






[D579]

Xena should have been deified!

PJ






[D580]

I have watched this show faithfully for 6 years, purchased all 6 season videos, attended every convention in NYC, and have enough X & G merchandise to stock my own warehouse but the ending left me upset...I think X & G earned the right to "ride..sail ..or walk off into the sunset"... I know that warriors usually die by the sword..but I though that all through the 6 years we had been told that she had finally been redeemed with the good deeds she had done ...That the love of G had saved her...

as an aside note 40,000 people in one village.. must have been a huge village...there are rumors out there about a movie being made...I can't really believe TPTB purposely killed off their cash cow without a thought in their heads about the reaction this episode would have...call me a cynic but I think they already have someone working on a movie script....will I go...darn right I will...like thousands of other Xenites I'm hooked!!!!!

VM






[D581]

very disappointed

K






[D582]

Thanks for the forum to finally express my point of view! The following is an e-mail sent to USA Studios concerning the final episode:

To whom it may concern,
I want to know what was going on in the minds of everyone involved with the series end of "Xena". I watched the show avidly, as did my kids. I can't believe you ended the series to begin with, but to have such a horrific ending is inexcusable! Did you not think of the viewers, especially the younger ones? This was the first female hero that has be portrayed on TV that was independent, intelligent and strong. Despite the lesbian rumors, this was a good role model for girls and women. She admitted her mistakes and tried to make good come from evil. And what do you do with this role model? You kill her and in such a gruesome way that you probably should be sued for traumatizing young and impressionable viewers! I truly can't believe the callous treatment of this series end. It really shows you don't care about your viewers.

Am I personally upset about this? You bet! It's like this folks, as Jim Croce said: "You don't tug on Superman's cape, you don't spit into the wind, you don't pull the mask off the ole' Lone Ranger..." and you shouldn't have killed off the character that made you millions!

I may never watch another series you produce and may well contact your advertisers.

For shame on you. How many little girls (and some not so little) have you damaged by taking away their hero and dreams? Why don't you just produce a series called "There is no Santa, Tooth Fairy, or Easter Bunny" and while you're at it make one called "Don't worry women, no matter what you achieve, men will kill you in the end."

Disgusted,

BL

Needless to say, I never received a response.

Thank you for having a place to vent and to mourn what could have been a wonderful legend. Too bad I didn't find this group sooner.






[D583]

Through most of this episode, I had no idea what was going on. It was only when I read the reviews that i got some idea of the plot...the sacred sword, and that Xena had lighted the town of Higuchi on fire when trying to take Akemi's ashes to her family plot.

I hated the special armor (What warrior goes from moderate protection to less than no protection?), and hated the lack of explanation all around. I realized that Xena thought it was necessary to die and become a ghost in order to fight the evil, but I hated the way it was done. She didn't die fighting, and she didn't clearly offer herself up...it was somewhere in between. Xena's face didn't even look like her face, and at the end, it broke my heart that she would call for Gabrielle while sacrificing herself...it was out of character, all the way. (I was pleased, however, that she introduced Gabrielle as her soulmate)

It was only on one of the web pages that I read that the tattoo, inscribed as it was, had the power to repulse the lighting ball...in the script, it just wasn't that clear.

All in all, a disappointment

A






[D584]

You should have added "DEPRESSED" as one of the choices. I could not find any reason for the writers to leave Xena "dead" except to do a sequel bringing her back to life. If that doesn't happen, I don't think I can even watch the reruns without becoming depressed.....knowing the fate that awaited Xena and Gabrielle in THE END.

LL






[D585]

I have really not been a big fan since the Dahak disaster, but I thought the ending was extremely disturbing and unnecessarily violent.

I'm just waiting for the series to come out on video, I would buy the first two seasons, which were brilliant, and set the standards to which successive seasons (Eli, Alti, ech!) could not possibly measure up.

RK






[D586]

i hated to see Xena die.

CC






[D587]

I think that the subject says it all!

FC






[D588]

Xena should not have died. She belongs on earth fighting with gabby.

R






[D589]

I am glad that I didn't actually see the episode, it sounds a little horrifying.

KM






[D590]

I know that it is difficult to accept the unexpected one final, I believe that horrible, terrible, indecent and pornographic like they say somebody, but apparently they were not imagined any other thing more, regrettably they lost the imagination in some place.

I believe that like followers and fanatic not only of show but of their main characters, we are in our right of saying what we think and I believe firmly that the producers and all the responsible ones of making the show forgot that we are partly responsible for the success that the show had, very apart from that they made the main characters, clearing is; they lied about how the end would be and if there is somebody to who to reproach is to the producer and creative and not because the show has arrived at its end but for the form in that arrive at that end; although we remember that in the show any thing can happen. Without time, without space.

On the other side and mainly if we are so fanatic of the main characters we should remember that the opinion of them worth and in a high-priority way, I think so; for this fits to mention that Ma'am Lawless manifested to Louis B. Hobson-Calgary Sun "I want to break my image as quickly as possible" and it is that what we should keep in mind and to respect. Perhaps be the moment in that it should break up with all this and to begin something different.

PC






[D591]

Very annoyed at the arrogance of the producers to include a horrible and degrading final image of a hero figure.

O






[D592]

I was very disjointed at the ending, and I still have not gotten over it. Tapert could have found a different way to end the series without showing so much graphic and violence to Xena's death. But he choose this way and without warning ,so that adults would have not let their kids watch it and be upset with the visuals.

Besides, I really wanted a happy ending with them going off into the sunset and retiring from the fighting scene and able to live their final years together in peace.

J






[D593]

I debated a long time on the finale and whether or to even bother with casting my preference here. But I have always believed when the opportunity exists to make to your opinion known whether in an election or a poll like your, then you must always take that opportunity.

I watch both parts of the finale all together, then I watch again the next day to see if the reaction I was having was justified. I wanted to see if I missed something that was important but not overlooked the first time. And the answer to that question is no.

Disappointed is the least of what I'm feeling. Shocked, stunned, outraged all fit so much better.

From the plot that had so many holes in it that you could drive a tank though them, to Xena being so dense in not realizing Akemi had her own agenda and was playing six ways to Sunday, to the way Xena did not explore other options before jumping in feet first to get herself killed, to Gabrielle silent concerning Xena's alleged responsibility for the 40,000 souls after her only Xena it was an accident, to the only a "thank you" and the "old friend" when Gabrielle goes to retrieve Xena's body, to where did the 20,000 soldiers go, to Xena's decision to stay dead after Akemi "you have redeemed me, you have redeemed yourself", to Gabrielle letting Xena convince her that it is the right thing to do, even though Akemi started the whole mess and was the only one who needed to be redeemed, to the concept that redemption only comes death, and finally to the boat with Gabrielle alone except for her pot.

And I wonder where the Xena and Gabrielle that I have been watching for the last six years went, because they certainly weren't in the finale.

And nothing I have seen written about coming full circle, Xena dying a true warrior, etc has changed my opinion.

The ending was terrible and I put myself through it twice. Never again.

SE






[D594]

My family and I were very disappointed at the way the series "Xena" ended. I was happy for Gabrielle, but I think that they could have provided a much better ending than the brutal one that was done. Why couldn't the series have ended like "Hercules" did with him and Iolaus just walking and talking. I, and I am sure many many many more fans, would have been very satisfied.

PE






[D595]

What happened to Eve? Virgil? Some of the other characters? What about the Twilight of the Gods or however you spell it thingie? And more questions. It left too many of these things unanswered.

F






[D596]

The "writers," whoever they were, used to say that ultimately all would be revealed about who Xena really was (there was an intimation of semi-godhood, a la Hercules). During the past few seasons, it seemed as if the writers had lost interest, or every scintilla of talent they'd had. I had hoped that someone among TPTB would oversee this debacle and pull it together for a last worthy episode. The offering presented seemed to raise "losing interest" to a new low, as it were. So what if there's no movie in the offing right now; shouldn't they have left themselves some options? Furthermore, who wants to live with the image of a widowed and delusional Gabrielle, either as hero (where's her credibility once she starts discussing strategy with Xena/Casper) or damaged poet returning to Greece to burden Lilla's children, or would it be grandchildren by then? The finale was unsatisfactory on so many levels (I haven't even bothered to address the issue of the "plot") that someone should coin a new term for multidimensional failure named after Tapert and company. "Tapped out" doesn't begin to describe the immensity of the disappointment that is their legacy, and Tapert has Robbed us of much of what he gave.

EY






[D597]

I was Very disappointed at the way they showed Xena and her body after her death. If that had not been shown I would have liked the finale and given it a thumbs up. It was not necessary.........to brutal..

RP






[D598]

Hi, I've been a long time supporter of XWP and HTLJ, since they became available in our area. (WGN - Chicago) I was more than a little disappointed in the ending.(?) I loved the plot, special effects, and the scenes where Gabrielle seems to match Xena move for move. It gave me the impression that Gabrielle had finally achieved what she'd set out to do, those many years ago. She had become a good warrior. She had also helped Xena, as much as she could, to overcome her "dark side".

But!!!! How could you behead your hero? I would have much rather seen, Xena defeat Yodoshi, and Gabrielle bring Xena's mortal body back to life. I understand about the punishment for murder theory, but I think Xena, had more than made up for the lives she'd taken, with the lives she'd saved over the years. I would have rather seen Michael, the Arc angel, come to collect her soul, with a hearty congrats, for pushing her "eternal balance sheet" into the positive section.

Michael could have taken Xena back to heaven, and told her, that for all of eternity, she'd guide "good warriors", through limited spiritual contact. Much like Callisto tried to guide Xena, to make the right decision, regarding the "Dagger of whatever" that enabled a mortal to kill a god.(against Ares)

She could have guided Eve, Gabrielle, and who knows how many other good wannabee warriors. My hope is that Rob Tapert, and Co. will come to their senses, and release a movie of some kind, featuring Lucy , Renee, Kevin Smith, Adrienne, etc.

MAG






[D599]

I was mainly disappointed at the series finally of the show. They have had six wonderful and entertaining seasons. I would think they would be able to come up with a little better ending than that! O well I guess I will have to live with it!

XC






[D600]

I was very disappointed with the season finale. There is now no chance of a reunion movie. ( well, Xena does/did have many skills, so who knows.) I think they should have walked off into the sunset holding hands....

CK






[D601]

That's not how it should have ended. Xena forgiving herself and going on to fight for the greater good would have been true redemption. Not dying for vengeance of the souls. The part that is the worst is now Gabrielle is all alone to travel the world. Just wrong.

MGJ






[D602]

I feel very disappointed. Xena was the "Warrior Princess", she should have went out like the "Warrior Princess" every knew.

She kicked b*tt, got beat up, but triumphed in the end.

Hercules went off with him alive, why not Xena?

Is there any chance to re-do that episode over?

DP






[D603]

YES, I AM DEFINATELY DISAPPOINTED. WHY DID THEY HAVE TO KILL OFF THE LEADING CHARACTER? WHY DID XENA HAVE TO DIE IN SUCH A UNDIGNIFIED MANNER? FRANKLY, IT SHOWS A REAL LACK OF IMAGINATION BY THE PRODUCERS FOR NOT COMING UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER.

EMV






[D604]

I was VERY,well, p*ss*d at the way they had the show end. While I think Xena knew she had to die to save the soles, why they had to leave her dead, I'll never know. The woman who had been brought back more than once couldn't figure out a way to save the soles and still come back to the living world, I don't think so.

The whole ending left a VERY bad taste in my mouth. I just kept thinking what was Gabrielle supposed to do now. She has lost her soulmate, and how was she going to make it. I will forever NEVER watch those episodes ever again.

RB






[D605]

yes it should have been done as a episode (the Japan theme) and come on, Xena has died how many times now? And this time she says she can't come back, now she turns good? Not Xena, it's not her style, Gabrielle yes, Xena no. -very let down =(

IW






[D606]

All I want to know is who is the final authority on this thing? Who gets the last say? I'm perfectly happy to declare myself the authority but what weight does my opinion carry in the xenaverse? What would Xena do in a situation like this?

Xena: And I should say I belong to myself. (The Debt)

If one person in the xenaverse should have some say over Xena's fate it should be Xena.

But who is Xena? Where does she live? How do we get in touch with her?

If Xena is a fictional character is there some aspect of her fictionality more real than some other aspect of it? Is Xena as she is portrayed on television more real than the Xena portrayed in fan fic, in comic books, in our collective dreams?

I think of the XWP television show crew and creators as playing a parental role, they are ultimately responsible for bringing Xena into the world and will always have a certain claim to her and be deserving of a kind of honor. But now that Xena has come into the world, now that she is here, has she not to some degree come into her own, matured, gained her independence if you will.

I love Xena, I feel that Xena loves me. It is written: And a fictional being shall leave her creator and cleave unto her fan. The bonds of holy matrimony supersede the bonds of parent and child. The real XWP show ended four years ago. All we've had since then are some good and not so good ideas for fan fic.

It's unfortunate the television series had to end with such a sorry excuse for an episode, but for the devoted Xena fan it's hardly the last say. We've only just begun. I hope. I hope I'm not the only one. Well, just leaves more Xena for me then.

Obsessed for life,
WT






[D607]

I been watching Xena for six years,I have never missed one episode,I have all her tapes. I can't believe she's gone, my heart aches. Please mr. Tapert bring her back,mend this broken heart,give us the loyal fans one more episode, let her live so she and Gabrielle could be together for ever.

S






[D608]

I have been a huge Xena fan since the beginning, with my loyalty beginning to wane as episode after episode of chop-socky acrobatics filled my screen.

Then, all of a sudden, it got a whole lot better. The plotlines began to become much more sophisticated, and more important, the characters began to show real development. Also, we began to see less and less of Joxer!

I loved the Caesar episodes, but my all time favorites were the three that were in Chin...they were mystical and wildly imaginative. I especially liked the ending, when Gabrielle leads Xena from the emperor's throne room, praising Xena for having spared the monster's life, only to have the camera pan around and see that Xena had, in fact, stuck it in his ear.

I wish they had not killed Xena, and I found the ending lame. And I also found the last two shows incomprehensible as far as plotting. So yes, I was disappointed. But having said that, it is still one of my all time favorite shows, and I remember Howdy Doody.

I have also enjoyed this website...you all put a lot of time and care into it, and I am deeply grateful. Thanks.

T






[D609]

They should have both lived or both died in each other's arms....

KAM






[D610]

I wanted a Happy Ending! I didn't care if Xena got killed again but I wanted her back alive before the ep ended and her and Gabby sailing off on that ship together. I just wanted a Happy Ending since it was the end of the TV Xenaverse and the last link with the Hercaverse. i watched both series from their beginnings and enjoyed them--most of the time--enormously.

Thanks for whoosh, btw.

ST
Phoenix Arizona






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